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John Turner
We come, we go, none of us in the turn of events last for much of a muchness. I do not want to sound morbid, but I am morbid. John Turner only played one match for Falkirk FC, soon fell ill, then about a year later died. We have no idea, if he was run-of-the mill, or if he was next best thing, remeniscent of N.F.Callaway who scored a double Century in his only match at cricket, then promptly got shot in the War [was he better than Bradman?, We will never know].
John Turner
b 14th October 1873, Slamannan, Stirlingshire
d 19th June 1894, Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Debut – Saturday January 28th 1893 v Pollockshaws (A) Scottish Federation
Positions - Half-Back
Minor League Matches/Goals [1/-]
Known Career – Falkirk [1892/93]
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Death by Football - 1889
I came across an article in the Evening News, and saved it as it was to do with Football round about Falkirk, then I had a thought .... it was like - hmmmmm!
The article was about a young bloke who had died as a result of an accident on the football field, and it set me thinking. I had a look through the local papers that I have copies of, and I can not find an earlier fatality due simply to footballing factors in the District. I am pretty sure, but not certain, that it would have been mentioned had it happened anywhere else in Stirlingshire, but I can find nothing.
I have a very rubbish book about British Football, which states the first death due to football in Britain was William Walker of Leith Athletic v Vale of Leven in 1907, but I think they were only counting League & Cup matches. I have tried to look for an earlier death in google, but to no avail.
It is very difficult to look up these things as I can find no footballing/death source to cross reference, but on February 23rd 1889 in a match between Redding Athletic and Southfield at Redding a player by the name of Robert Whyte received a kick to the stomach, he left the field, however his condition worsened over the weekend, finally dying on the Tuesday. There is no match report in the Falkirk Herald [the fact that he died is the only reason I know the match even occurred], and I only have two sources for the aftermath.
Now, I can hear what some of you are thinking, Redding v Southfield [from Slamannan] this is just a kick-around, but both these teams were members of both the Scottish & Stirlingshire FAs, the fact that it was an ordinary match [not quite a friendly, but this was before League Football] is neither here nor there, however it was two Scottish Senior clubs in a tussle for local bragging rights, and Redding would have ended the game with only ten [or less] players.
Robert Whyte
b c 1866
d 26th February 1899, Redding, Stirlingshire
Known Career - Redding Athletic [????-1899] ["long a member of his club"]
NB - I have had a look at the 1881 Census and can only find a Robert White living in Polmont [Parish], however the IGI has a Robert Whyte born in Polmont [Parish] c 1865, but dying in 1888!
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Jock Drummond
Jock Drummond was not properly a Falkirk Bairn, but he was good enough for me, the family was living here by the time of the 1881 Census. he was originally from the Hillfoots. But it would seem he grew up in the town [so if it was up to me I would give him a passport]. Like many of the great players for Falkirk FC he seems to come out of nowhere, but this is more to to do with the lack of 2nd XI matches being reported, then, as now, in the local press.
In his time at Falkirk Jock spent a lot of time at left back, but I suspect this may be more to do do with the fact his partner would have been worse. He was a class above Stirlingshire football. He even extendended his range to play when needed, at Left-Half. In his memoirs [published in the Rangers Historian [a surprisingly un-bigoted publication]] he remembered learning under Pat Murphy to play LB.
According to the Falkirk Herald, before he moved to Rangers [you must remember this was a time before the current nonsense] he was scouted & tempted by English clubs like Wolves, Preston etc, but he stayed in Scotland. But not because he was a hun, because he had a fine job as a Bank Clerk in Falkirk, and refused to leave the town, he would travel to the match on Saturday, but he would never leave the town.
After a long career with Rangers he returned to Falkirk, but not really as a player, but a director, well more as a director who would play when needed. He did not play much second time around, but must have been a great boon to the others about him.
John Drummond has a few things about him which will never go away, he was the first Falkirk player to play for Scotland: he is the first player known to have scored a goal from a Penalty Kick for the Club [Falkirk scored another two weeks before, but the scorer was not recorded], he is another who played before his 18th birthday.
When it came for him to eventually hang up his boots he was was only playing in goals [but still playing] he played for Falkirk FC in a post-season tour of 'the North' when he played against a Morayshire XI on the 7th May 1907 [this being the 20 years & 21 Days after the first time he turned out for that amateur team].
[I like this pic, aged 16 from the 2nd XI before he even played a First XI Match]
[Sorry about the quality, but, I was not there]
[Sorry about the quality, but, I was not there]
John Drummond
b 13th April 1870, Alva, Stirlingshire
d 23rd January 1935, Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Debut – Saturday April 16th 1887 v Alloa Athletic (H) Friendly
Positions – Left-Back, Centre-Half, Left-Half, Right-Back
Representative Honours – Scotland v Ireland 1891/92, Stirlingshire v Linlithgowshire 1888/89, v Fife 1890/91, vForfarshire v 1890/91, 1891/92
Club Honours – Stirlingshire Cup W 1889/90, RU 1891/92, Falkirk District Charity Cup W 1889/90, 1891/92, RU1890/91, Falkirk Infirmary Shield W 1891/92, RU 1889/90, 1890/91
Scottish Cup Matches /Goals [12/-]
Scottish Qualifying Cup Matches/Goals [1/-]
Minor League Matches/Goals [11/1]
Minor Cup Matches/Goals [30/1]
Other Matches/Goals [87/4]
Known Career – Falkirk [1886/87-1892/93], Rangers [1891/92-1903/04], Falkirk [1904/05-1906/07]
Selected for the 1891/92 International Trials.
Played for Zingari v Falkirk Excelsior, Friendly at Tannery Pk, Falkirk, 28th April 1887
Played for Falkirk Caledonians v Redding Athletic, Friendly at Redding, 5th May 1887
Played for Redding Athletic v Vale of Avon, Friendly at Redding, 8th June 1887
Played for Redding Athletic v Kilsyth Wanderers, Friendly at Garrell Garden Pk, Kilsyth, 10th September 1887
Played for Falkirk District XI v Rangers Ibroxonians, Benefit Match at Brockville Pk, Falkirk, 11th June 1889
Played for Dunblane 2nd XI v Falkirk 2nd XI, Friendly at Brockville Pk, Falkirk, 18th January 1890
Played for King's Park v Hurlford, Friendly at Forthbank Pk, Stirling, 1st January 1891
Scored Falkirk's first recorded goal from a penalty kick, v Glasgow Wanderers (H) September 12th 1891, Scottish Federation
Cousin of George Drummond. [Falkirk 1899/00-1901/02]
Made his League debut for Falkirk 17 Years 126 Days after his Falkirk 1st XI debut
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The Youngest Falkirk Player ... ever?
If you look up your Rothmans [or whatever it is called now], and look at the Falkirk FC pages it will tell you that the youngest Falkirk Player (post-war) is Gary Gillespie, but we who know stuff know that the World & Football, did actually exist in the time before 1945.
So, some of us know James McPhie was younger than Gary when he played just before the War broke out. However, in my researches into the murky past of 19th Century Football has unearthed a potential rival: William Lees.
William Lees, and his uncle James [who also turned out for Falkirk FC], was from Blackbraes. This is difficult for people to get their head round nowadays, but, there was a substantial village called Blackbraes just South of California until the turn of the 19th/20th Century, California was almost non-existent then. I believe [from my reading of the 1891 Census that the family Lees lived somewhere between the only houses remaining in Blackbraes & the Greyrigg Inn [ie on the way from California to Avonbridge/Standburn].
Anyway, I digress, William had clearly been making noises in the junior scene, so was filched by Falkirk, and thrown into the mix v Grangemouth in a Stirlingshire Cup match in 1892. In the 1891 Census he is listed only as being born in Carnwath, Lanarkshire, and being 14 Years Old. The next year he was in the Falkirk FC 1st XI .... Now, I know, he may have had two birthdays between the Census & his Debut, and since I am yet to trace his exact Date of Birth I do not know for sure. But there is a chance he may have only been fifteen when he first played.
William Lees
b c1877, Carnwath, Lanarkshire
d ????
Debut – Saturday October 29th 1892 v Grangemouth (H) Stirlingshire Cup 1st Rd
Positions – Centre-Forward
Minor League Matches/Goals [2/-]
Minor Cup Matches/Goals [3/3]
Other Matches/Goals [10/1]
Known Career – Falkirk [1892/93]
Nephew of James Lees [Falkirk 1892/93]
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Falkirk FC 1919?
I have this picture in my possession, it purports to be Falkirk FC in 1919 [and I have no reason to doubt it, but cannot substantiate it either]. I can tell some of the players, Tom Scott [Back row, second left], Tom Ferguson [goalie], Robert McDougall [Front Row, Centre [and with the ball, so Captain, which surprised me]]. But I do not know most of these people.
I suspect it was taken before the match v Raith Rovers on the 16th August 1919, and the players I know fit into that, but I cannot be sure. If you can shed any light, or help me in any way, please get in touch.
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Clubs in Falkirk District - Gairdoch
Long before the current situation, in about the 1880s/90s if you were to ask a local who was the third biggest team in Falkirk District [clearly 'Shire then Falkirk [in that order] would be 1 & 2] they would probably look at you then say "Camelon" with the unsaid "ya div" left hanging in the ether.
If you were to ask who was fourth, it would be murkier, but I would lay a bet that they would more likely say Gairdoch before Stenhousemuir.
The village of Carronshore is not where you might find a really good football team [do not get me wrong shoreites, the village produced many good footballers, many who eventually joined other, bigger clubs] but it is too small to attract a big enough crowd to pay them players. They were helped by the fact that T.D.Brodie [their Patron] let them play at Dovecote Park without paying rent.
But even that could not stem the tide of professionalism, eventually FFC, ESFC & clubs further afeild pilfering their best players meant they collapsed into nothingness: they were reborn into a junior side, but even that could not sutain itself.
It is sad, as they really did produce some good players.
I have never tracked down the exact location of Dovecote Pk, but get the feeling that it might have been somewhere close to the Dovecote.
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Town v County - 1902
In the aftermath of the Ibrox disaster nearly all of Scottish Football pulled together in aid of the benevolent fund and the Stirlingshire Association did their bit along with the others. A while back I wrote a weepost about the tournament at the start of the 1902/03 season, which was in effect an extra Stirlingshire Cup, the proceeds going to the fund. But before that there was a match played at the tail end of the 1901/02 Season for the same cause.
On Tuesday 15th April 1902 at Merchiston Park [the home of East Stirlingshire FC] the Stirlingshire FA organised two representative teams for a challenge match. Unlike previous matches this was not played by a Stirlingshire XI against a large club or another representative team, instead the sides were chosen along the lines of Town v County, in other words Falkirk against the Rest of Stirlingshire.
Besides the football entertainment was provided by the Carron Works, the Wright Memorial and the Falkirk Burgh Brass Bands, and a there was a "very large attendance of spectators". On the field the Town side wore the Black & White of East Stirlingshire, while County wore Red Jerseys and White shorts.
Town - Allan [FFC]; Hill [FFC] & Gillespie [FAFC]; Scott [FFC], Fish [ESFC] & Rae [ESFC]; Low [FFC] & Kellock [FFC], Leishman [FFC], Dobbie [ESFC] & White [ESFC].
County - McCrory [KPFC], Leishman [CFC] & McLeod [SFC]; Reid [CFC], McBride [SFC] & Campbell [CFC]; McNair [SFC] & Clarkson [SFC], Baird [SFC], Carrigan [CFC] & Rae [CFC].
The match itself was very competitive, although I suppose the tackling was less intense than in a more competitive fixture, and was very end to end. The first side to strike was County, who on the counter attack passed the ball to Baird who hit the leather so hard that Allan could not hold on to to it and let it slip over the line. However within three minutes Town had equalised, scorer missing. For the rest of the half County were on the ascendancy but the Town defence stood form. Half Time 1-1.
Within three minutes of the resumption Town's Centre-Forward Robert Leishman nipped in behind his wee brother William Leishman on the County side to sent Town into the lead. After some exciting goalmouth skirmishes at both ends Baird again put the teams level. But almost straight from the kick-off Dobbie took a long shot that slipped between McCrory's hands and put Town back ahead. For most of the remaining time play was camped in the Town half, but this time William Allan was on the form that was to become common for the next two decades between the sticks. Failing light brought the players off some ten minutes before the scheduled 45 minutes had been played; the result standing Town 3 County 2.
The gate reciepts were reported as £18 6s 1d, but collections made in the ground added to the sum to be given over to the Ibrox Fund.
This is the last time that I have come across a representative Falkirk [geographical] side, but I dare say that were one to compete against the County today an FFC/ESFC XI could have a decent tussle against a SAFC/SFC XI, but I am a hopless romantic and think such matches are the best way to play Benefits, Testimonials & Charity matches, far better than the same two clubs who might have played several times within the last year. I live in hope.
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Football & Alcohol - James Tennant
The victorians were weird people, well some of them were anyway. If you read enough into it their morals were generally projected upon the working classes in a "do as I say; not as I do" sort of way. Temperance movements abounded, whilst at the same time "Gentlemen's Clubs" existed within which all manner of lasciviousness occurred beyond the prying eyes of the common or garden pleb, and handily beyond the reach of the licensing laws placed upon the Public House.
These victorian values even stretched their long arms into the realms of football [Dunipace FC, were literally formed as Dunipace Temperance Association Football Club], this was brought to mind when I came across this interesting case brought before the Falkirk Burgh Police Court on Tuesday 25th of September 1897 involving Falkirk FC's Centre-Forward of the time: James 'Midgy' Tennant.
My antipathy towards the police, plus the fact that Tennant scored more than a hundred goals for my beloved football club makes me want to side with 'midgy' ... however ... in an extract from the same paper, another Falkirk FC player Bobby Fearns pleaded guilty to the charges, also James Tennant once signed professional forms for East Stirlingshire, claiming it was a mistake as he was drunk out of his head when he did it. Hmmmm.
Still, when he was playing for Falkirk, he was good.
James 'Midgy' Tennant
b c1872, Falkirk, Stirlingshire
d 25th September 1926, Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Debut – Saturday January 10th 1891 v Battlefield (H) Friendly
Positions – Centre-Forward, Inside-Right, Inside-Left
Representative Honours – Stirlingshire v Forfarshire 1894/95
Club Honours – Midland League W 1894/95, RU 1895/96, Stirlingshire Cup W 1894/95, 1895/96, RU 1891/92, 1897/98, Falkirk District Charity Cup W 1891/92, 1893/94, RU 1894/95, Falkirk Infirmary Shield W 1891/92, 1892/93, 1893/94, RU 1895/96
Scottish Cup Matches /Goals [7/4]
Scottish Qualifying Cup Matches /Goals [8/4]
Minor League Matches/Goals [73/33]
Minor Cup Matches/Goals [43/21]
Other Matches/Goals [87/45]
Hat-Tricks – 6 [Midland League [1] Stirlingshire Cup [2] Other [3]]
Known Career – Burnhouse, Falkirk Athletic, Falkirk [1890/91-1897/98], Camelon [1898/99]
NB - he was called Midgy due to his alledged rotundity .....
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Junior Hell - Heather Rangers 1897/98
Although I mainly concentrate on Senior Football in Falkirk District, as a sideline I do note down all football in the town & its suburbs. So I have reems & reems of results from all manner of 'clubs' from proper Junior clubs down to scratch XIs representing anything from streets to the various Co-Operative Societies. And this is where it Hell. To this day I do not fully 'get' Junior Football: Dunipace Juniors play in the West Region; Camelon Juniors play in the East Region; Falkirk Juniors [who actually play in Grangemouth further East than Camelon] play in the Central. On top of this there are all manner of bizarrely named cups which seem to go on until the week before the next season.
Excuse my ignorance, I was just not brought up following the Junior game. But in my researches this week into the 1897/98 season and trying to put together an idea of the local Junior teams & Competitions has given me an inkling into why Junior football is so byzantyne. One club: Heather Rangers of Stenhousemuir.
In 1897/98 Heather Rangers competed in the Scottish Junior Cup, the stirlingshire Junior Cup, the Falkirk District Junior Cup, The Falkirk District Junior League, the Falkirk Cottage Hospitals' Junior Shield, the Stirling District Junior Cup & the Stirling District Junior League [nb - The Stirling District Junior Cup was two legged, and both the Stirling District Junior competitions did not start until after Christmas].
Now, you will obviously be shocked that they did not fulfill their fixtures [some of the cup matches having to be played in the next season], but this is a bugbear of mine, very little is known of these competitions, and even though some of us are trying to record them, so little was published that it is nearly impossible from this remove. And another, will Stenhousemuir make up its mind as to whether it is in Falkirk District or Stirling District.
Excuse my ignorance, I was just not brought up following the Junior game. But in my researches this week into the 1897/98 season and trying to put together an idea of the local Junior teams & Competitions has given me an inkling into why Junior football is so byzantyne. One club: Heather Rangers of Stenhousemuir.
In 1897/98 Heather Rangers competed in the Scottish Junior Cup, the stirlingshire Junior Cup, the Falkirk District Junior Cup, The Falkirk District Junior League, the Falkirk Cottage Hospitals' Junior Shield, the Stirling District Junior Cup & the Stirling District Junior League [nb - The Stirling District Junior Cup was two legged, and both the Stirling District Junior competitions did not start until after Christmas].
Now, you will obviously be shocked that they did not fulfill their fixtures [some of the cup matches having to be played in the next season], but this is a bugbear of mine, very little is known of these competitions, and even though some of us are trying to record them, so little was published that it is nearly impossible from this remove. And another, will Stenhousemuir make up its mind as to whether it is in Falkirk District or Stirling District.
Known Matches by Heather Rangers in 1897/98I have to add to this that the Falkirk Herald did not publish every football result, it was dependant upon the club sending in match reports/results. I know this as they occasionally published the Falkirk District Junior League Table and the table did not tally with the published matches, but I can only go on what was reported.
Aug 21 Airth Castle Rangers 3 Heather Rangers 1 Friendly
Sep 4 Forth Rangers 0 Heather Rangers 1 Falkirk District Junior League
Sep 11 Heather Rangers 1 Falkirk Hawthorn 2 Falkirk District Junior League
Sep 18 Heather Rangers 5 Forth Rangers 3 League?
Sep 25 Heather Rangers 5 Falkirk Excelsior 1 Scottish Junior Cup 1st Rd
Oct 2 Gairdoch Junior - Heather Rangers - Falkirk District Junior League [Heather did not turn up]
Oct 9 Heather Rangers 5 Falkirk Excelsior 4 Falkirk District Junior Cup 2nd Rd
Oct 16 Heather Rangers 2 Slamannan Swifts 3 Stirlingshire Junior Cup 1st Rd [protest]
Oct 23 Gairdoch Juniors 2 Heather Rangers 0 Hospitals Shield?
Oct 30 Artizan Thistle 2 Heather Rangers 1 Scottish Junior Cup 2nd Rd
Nov 6 Heather Rangers 3 Slamannan Swifts 3 Stirlingshire Junior Cup 1st Rd
Nov 20 Slamannan Swifts 6 Heather Rangers 2 Stirlingshire Junior Cup 1st Rd Rep
Nov 27 Forth Rangers 2 Heather Rangers 1 Falkirk District Junior Cup Semi @Merch
Dec 18 Gairdoch Juniors 3 Heather Rangers 2 Falkirk District Junior League
Dec 25 Heather Rangers 3 Larbert Broomage Albion 2 Friendly
Jan 15 Longcroft Thistle 1 Heather Rangers 2 Stirling District Junior Cup 1st Rd 1st Leg
Jan 22 Heather Rangers 4 Longcroft Thistle 1 Stirling District Junior Cup 1st Rd 2nd Leg
Jan 29 Heather Rangers 3 Falkirk Excelsior 3 Falkirk District Junior League
Feb 5 Heather Rangers 7 Rising Star 1 Falkirk District Junior League
Feb 19 Heather Rangers 3 St Ninians Thistle 2 Stirling District Junior Cup 2nd Rd 1st Leg
Feb 26 St Ninians Thistle 2 Heather Rangers 1 Stirling District Junior Cup Aband
Mar 5 Tillicoultry Victoria 2 Heather Rangers 2 Friendly
Mar 19 St Ninians Thistle 1 Heather Rangers 4 Stirling District Junior Cup 2nd Rd 2nd Leg
Apr 2 Heather Rangers 0 Bannockburn 2 Stirling District Junior Cup Semi 1st Leg
Apr 9 Bannockburn 5 Heather Rangers 2 Stirling District Junior Cup Semi 2nd Leg
May 7 Rising Star 1 Heather Rangers 1 Falkirk District Junior League
May 14 Falkirk Excelsior 0 Heather Rangers 1 Falkirk District Junior League
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A Whole New Country
OMG, can I say that again, OMG
Cate Dickinson-Byrne just got in touch with me about her Grandfather "James Robertson" who was a legendary Falkirk Centre-Forward from 1910 to 1914 [and from that point continued to play for Falkirk, but you have to admit world politics got in the way of Falkirk's selection policy]
Anyway, Cate tells me that James signed up again in 1939, which means I might have to make a new page about Falkirk players who served in both wars [but I suspect there might only be one chap] I give to you, all you who sadly forgot him James Robertson
Cate Dickinson-Byrne just got in touch with me about her Grandfather "James Robertson" who was a legendary Falkirk Centre-Forward from 1910 to 1914 [and from that point continued to play for Falkirk, but you have to admit world politics got in the way of Falkirk's selection policy]
Anyway, Cate tells me that James signed up again in 1939, which means I might have to make a new page about Falkirk players who served in both wars [but I suspect there might only be one chap] I give to you, all you who sadly forgot him James Robertson
James Robertson
b 15th March, 1885,Alexandria, Dunbartonshire
d 26th April 1968, London, Middlesex
Debut – Saturday February 18th1911 v Clyde (H) Scottish League Division 1
Positions – Centre-Forward
Club Honours – Scottish Cup W 1912/13, North-Eastern CupW 1911/12, RU 1910/11, Dunedin Cup W 1913/14, Dewar Shield W 1913/14, Falkirk District Charity Cup W 1913/14, Falkirk Infirmary Shield W 1912/13, 1913/14
Falkirk Leading League Goalscorer1911/12 [12], 1912/13 [12], 1913/14 [21], 1914/15 [11]
Scottish League Division 1 Matches/Goals [160/75]
Scottish Cup Matches/Goals [11/2]
Scottish Victory Cup Matches/Goals [2/-]
Minor League Matches/Goals [1/1]
Minor Cup Matches/Goals [26/20]
Scored [2] on his League Debut
Hat-Tricks – 1 [Division 1 [1]]
Known Career – Vale of Leven [1904/05], Distillery, Blackburn Rovers [1905/06-1907/08], Brighton & Hove Albion [1908/09], Vale of Leven [1909/10-1910/11], Falkirk [1910/11-1918/19], Dunfermline Athletic [1915/16], Vale of Leven [1918/19-1920/21], Dumbarton Harp
Played for Home-Scots v Anglo-Scots, Scottish International Trial at Glasgow, 18thMarch 1913
Awarded the Croix de Guerre in February 1918, Awarded the Military Medal in December 1918
Possibly one of Falkirk FC's best ever 'signings', coming as part of Jock Simpson's transfer to Blackburn Rovers, Jimmy Robertson went on to score over 100 goals in all matches for the club
Height - 5 ft 8 in: Weight 13 st 0 lbs [1913]
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East Stirlingshire 1890/91
Sterling work [or luck] by the folk over there at 'Shire Towers in coming across a long lost picture of one of the mighty Zebra teams from the 19th Century, especially for me as it includes two former Falkirk players [Michael Harley & John Mercer] of whom I had no pictures, my only surprise was there were only two players that played for both teams in the picture [Michael's wee brother Tom was with the ES for example]. During this era, I doubt if I have ever come across a team pic from either club that did not have at least one player who had played for both teams.
NB - After posting this, I noticed the picture also included Harry Reid [who played in 4 friendlies for Falkirk FC, so I am slightly happier].
However the best [and often most annoying] thing about images of football players is their strips. Until you look at it closely few things are obvious. Then look at Johnnie Mercer ..... The only thing that gives him away as a goalkeeper is a slight variance in the collar of his shirt. Then look at their shorts, never mind that they are knee-length, that is just fashion, the first thing that struck me is that they all have pockets!! Of course, there would be no major dealers in football strips, so apart from the shirts, the players would doubtless be wearing converted workwear. The third part of the strip which to me was conspicuous, is striking by its absence. Apart from a couple of players, and then only just, I cannot see a pair of socks: stockings made up part of the club colours which were listed in the SFA Annuals of the time! Never mind the fact that it is now against the laws to wear shin-pads over the socks.
Finally, a couple of little things for the purists, the fad for wearing caps was ebbing away, apart from Archie Ritchie rightly showing off his newly earned Scotland Cap, only Kadie is wearing a cap, yet several could have worn their Stirlingshire caps. There is no club insignia anywhere, in fact apart from things that only a fan or a historian could have known, there is no way of knowing which club it is and when it was taken! Finally, who is the Captain? I am guessing David Alexander, not because he is front and centre [he was a Centre-Forward after all] but because of his proximity to the ball, but that is still just a guess.
Read more over at the official East Stirlingshire Website.
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Clubs from Falkirk District - Comely Park
Now, first things first, I do not come to this from a completely unbiased position, as a febrile youth I attended Comely Park Primary School, so I was brought up in the same part of Falkirk in which this team played, so I have a wee bit of affection for them.
One of myriad short lived senior football clubs from the 1880s Comely Park were one of the few clubs that played South of the High Street in the town. It is unclear exactly where they played their matches, apart from the vague 'within the policies of Comely Park House'. This is a large area, and in the 1880s much of it was not as built up as it now, but two places stick out, there was a patch of ground, modern Cochrane Street which developed into the current Bowling Club, and which was later used by several Junior Clubs, and there was a football ground later used by Falkirk Amateurs which was on the area of land roughly occupied by the car park directly East of Kemper Avenue [as an aside Kemper is the local dialect spelling of Quimper, France [oh I read far too much]], I tend to go for the second, but this is mainly because in one match Comely Park advertised "Entrance via Burnfoot Lane". Again things have to be contextualised, nowadays there is a large area [now a carpark] on Williamson Street, but back then Williamson Street was all tenaments, so it had to be further out. It is possible that you could access modern Cochrane Street from Burnfoot Lane before St Crispins Avenue was built, but to me the fact that Burnfoot Lane veers to the East makes me think it is more likely that they played on what was to become Tannery Park, but this is all conjecture.
Falkirk FC used Comely Park like a nursery club, much in the way they would later do with Falkirk Amateurs, and the overlap does not end there. The Gillespie brothers were as steeped in Comely Park and in Falkirk Amateurs as they ever were with Falkirk FC [there is an inkling in my mind that they may have been instigators of both clubs] - Alex & William played for Comely Park, Robert & George played for Falkirk Amateurs, John played for both. so what is known is that there was a lot of overlap with players between Falkirk & Comely Park. However it must be noted that Falkirk never took the club seriously only sending the second XI to play them.
One of the problems which football clubs in Falkirk have faced is that Falkirk FC simply got there first, so have been on the losing end of a circle of diminishing returns, fewer fans than the bigger clubs mean smaller gates, smaller gates means a smaller kitty for upkeep of ground, shabbier grounds means fewer good players wish to turn out for them, meaning it is made difficult to get good results, meaning the fickle fanbase are less likely to turn out, and it starts again [remember, Comely Park spent their entire time during the amateur era, but even then financial constraints mattered, if not for players' wages].
It was an interesting experiment, and although I love the fact my football club so simple that it is the name of my town, I occasionally hanker to support a club with a slightly exotic name, something local, something from left-field [something every ESFC fan must get when they rage at stupid reporters from South of the Border who lazily assume that they are from Stirling], but as I said, Falkirk FC got there first, besides if I were to support a team on the basis of name alone I would be a Tayavalla fan, even though I am not [and would never wish to be] from Tamfourhill.
All in all, Comely Park existed, they never shook anything up, they barely got recognition within Falkirk, never mind the wider world, but the chaps who turned out for them tried their hardest, and it was hardly their fault that those which showed any promise were pilfered by either Falkirk or East Stirlingshire, or even by Grahamston FC, the sad fact is that even by the 1880s football was so commercialised that a small, locally based football team could not survive [never mind compete] even at a local level before the advent of junior football, and I will point again to those of us knowledgable of Falkirk of the historical dearth of football South of the High Street.
# Benefit for the funds of Comely Park FC
NB - I have found several matches by Falkirk FC which were not reported in the Local press, so there is the massive possibility that Comely Park played more matches about which I have no clue, and no real way of knowing.
One of myriad short lived senior football clubs from the 1880s Comely Park were one of the few clubs that played South of the High Street in the town. It is unclear exactly where they played their matches, apart from the vague 'within the policies of Comely Park House'. This is a large area, and in the 1880s much of it was not as built up as it now, but two places stick out, there was a patch of ground, modern Cochrane Street which developed into the current Bowling Club, and which was later used by several Junior Clubs, and there was a football ground later used by Falkirk Amateurs which was on the area of land roughly occupied by the car park directly East of Kemper Avenue [as an aside Kemper is the local dialect spelling of Quimper, France [oh I read far too much]], I tend to go for the second, but this is mainly because in one match Comely Park advertised "Entrance via Burnfoot Lane". Again things have to be contextualised, nowadays there is a large area [now a carpark] on Williamson Street, but back then Williamson Street was all tenaments, so it had to be further out. It is possible that you could access modern Cochrane Street from Burnfoot Lane before St Crispins Avenue was built, but to me the fact that Burnfoot Lane veers to the East makes me think it is more likely that they played on what was to become Tannery Park, but this is all conjecture.
Falkirk FC used Comely Park like a nursery club, much in the way they would later do with Falkirk Amateurs, and the overlap does not end there. The Gillespie brothers were as steeped in Comely Park and in Falkirk Amateurs as they ever were with Falkirk FC [there is an inkling in my mind that they may have been instigators of both clubs] - Alex & William played for Comely Park, Robert & George played for Falkirk Amateurs, John played for both. so what is known is that there was a lot of overlap with players between Falkirk & Comely Park. However it must be noted that Falkirk never took the club seriously only sending the second XI to play them.
One of the problems which football clubs in Falkirk have faced is that Falkirk FC simply got there first, so have been on the losing end of a circle of diminishing returns, fewer fans than the bigger clubs mean smaller gates, smaller gates means a smaller kitty for upkeep of ground, shabbier grounds means fewer good players wish to turn out for them, meaning it is made difficult to get good results, meaning the fickle fanbase are less likely to turn out, and it starts again [remember, Comely Park spent their entire time during the amateur era, but even then financial constraints mattered, if not for players' wages].
It was an interesting experiment, and although I love the fact my football club so simple that it is the name of my town, I occasionally hanker to support a club with a slightly exotic name, something local, something from left-field [something every ESFC fan must get when they rage at stupid reporters from South of the Border who lazily assume that they are from Stirling], but as I said, Falkirk FC got there first, besides if I were to support a team on the basis of name alone I would be a Tayavalla fan, even though I am not [and would never wish to be] from Tamfourhill.
All in all, Comely Park existed, they never shook anything up, they barely got recognition within Falkirk, never mind the wider world, but the chaps who turned out for them tried their hardest, and it was hardly their fault that those which showed any promise were pilfered by either Falkirk or East Stirlingshire, or even by Grahamston FC, the sad fact is that even by the 1880s football was so commercialised that a small, locally based football team could not survive [never mind compete] even at a local level before the advent of junior football, and I will point again to those of us knowledgable of Falkirk of the historical dearth of football South of the High Street.
Known Matches played by Comely Park FC* Comely Park played on these occasions with the explicit assistance of players from other clubs [mainly Falkirk FC]
Sat Nov 3rd 1883 v Grahamston (H) 4-1 Friendly
Sat Nov 17th 1883 v Tayavalla 2nd XI (H) 2-1 Friendly
Sat Dec 1st 1883 v East Stirlingshire 3rd XI (H) 0-2 Friendly
Sat Feb 9th 1884 v East Stirlingshire (H) 1-9 Stirlingshire 1st Rd
Sat May 17th 1884 v Carron (A) 3-3 Friendly
Sat Oct 18th 1884 v Strathblane (A) withdrew Stirlingshire Cup 1st Rd
Sat Nov 15th 1884 v Laurieston (A) 2-2 Friendly
Sat Mar 28th 1885 v Grangemouth (A) 0-3 Friendly
Sat May 16th 1885 v Laurieston (H) 2-3 Friendly
Sat Jun 4th 1885 v Grangemouth (H) 11-1 Friendly *
Sat Sep 19th 1885 v Falkirk 2nd XI (A) 1-8 Friendly
Sat Sep 26th 1885 v Stirling Olympic (H) 7-0 Stirlingshire Cup 1st Rd
Sat Oct 17th 1885 v Falkirk Cricket Club (H) 3-1 Friendly
Sat Nov 7th 1885 v Laurieston (A) 1-1 Friendly
Sat Nov 21st 1885 v Campsie Central (H) 1-1 Stirlingshire Cup 1st Rd
Sat Nov 28th 1885 v Campsie Central (A) 3-6 Stirlingshire Cup 1st Rd Replay
Sat Dec 5th 1885 v Laurieston (H) 0-5 Friendly
Sat Dec 19th 1885 v Falkirk Harp (A) 1-1 Friendly
Sat Dec 26th 1885 v Camelon 2nd XI (H) 3-1 Friendly
Sat Jan 9th 1886 v Falkirk 2nd XI (H) 3-0 Friendly
Sat Mar 6th 1886 v Black Watch (H) 2-1 Friendly
Sat Mar 20th 1886 v Falkirk Harp (H) 6-3 Friendly
Sat Apr 3rd 1886 v East Stirlingshire 2nd XI (H) 2-1 Friendly
Thu May 6th 1886 v East Stirlingshire 2nd XI (A) 1-2 Friendly
Sat May 8th 1886 v Falkirk (A) 1-4 Falkirk District Charity Cup Semi-Final
Sat May 22nd 1886 v Partick Thistle (H) 4-5 Benefit * #
Sat Sep 25th 1886 v Grangemouth (H) withdrew Stirlingshire Cup 1st Rd
# Benefit for the funds of Comely Park FC
NB - I have found several matches by Falkirk FC which were not reported in the Local press, so there is the massive possibility that Comely Park played more matches about which I have no clue, and no real way of knowing.
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Cigarette Cards
Never have been a big fan of collecting cigarette cards, for a start there were always too few Falkirk Players [never mind next to no ESFC players], and to get players once with Falkirk [or 'shire] now with some English team [no offence against the English, just none of you have ever won the Stirlingshire Cup!] seemed wrong. I would try to buy every player connected with Falkirk, but hey, I do have alcohol & tobacco to buy too!!!
I do however monitor, in passing, the trade in cards on ebay etc, and occasionally will try to get a card of a Falkirk player if it seems reasonable, it was with this I came across a card of the legend that was Jock Simpson. With Blackburn, and obviously dated from 1911 [whether later 1910/11 or early 1911/12 I can't say] but since he was born Christmas Day and joined Blackburn in January 1911, it just takes a bit of counting.
I like this, because it gives me his height and weight which I never knew before, and keep records [when I can find them] on a different sheet. And this within a year of signing for Blackburn from Falkirk allows me to crowbar it into my notes.
As it says, he was born in England, but was brought up just outside Falkirk, so couldn't play for Scotland by the rules of the day, and if I am correct in December 1910 became only the second person selected for an England Representative match whilst playing in Scotland after Henry Hammond who was selected whilst being a Master at Blairlodge and a player for East Stirlingshire in the 1890s.
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The Falkirk Herald
I am disgusted, one with the paper, and two with you Tad for not flagging up this shit, I read the online Falkirk Herald last week and saw this -
Or you could just ask a bloke who has already read all the Falkirk Heralds, and Falkirk Mails through those years, yes, I stick my head above the parapet, I was evenly not born as the senior bairns were not born between 1914 and 1919, and here is a little hint, football in Scotland did not resume normality until 1921. Just saying.
Or you could just ask a bloke who has already read all the Falkirk Heralds, and Falkirk Mails through those years, yes, I stick my head above the parapet, I was evenly not born as the senior bairns were not born between 1914 and 1919, and here is a little hint, football in Scotland did not resume normality until 1921. Just saying.
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Falkirk v Kelvinbank 1877
Back in the day it was common for Combined Elevens to play matches, mostly for benefit games, but often as a bridge between Club and national football. Falkirk District XIs were commonplace throughout the 1880s and 1890s. However the first team to play under such a name was special, since it was the first ever game of football played in Falkirk.
In November 1877 the provost sponsored a match between Kelvinbank and a team of Falkirk Bairns then playing in Glasgow. The game was played at Mayfield, which was probably the same ground as Falkirk FC's later ground at Blinkbonny.
Falkirk XI v Kelvinbank, 8th Dec 1877 at Mayfield, Falkirk
Falkirk XI 0 Kelvinbank 5
Falkirk XI– P.C.Masterton; J.Richardson(Capt) & J.McNee; J.Thomson & J.Finlayson; J.Dunn & D.R.Watson, J.Taylor & R.McNee, J.Pringle & W.Parkinson.
Kelvinbank– D.McCall; McDonald & Robertson; Preston & Watson; W.Cumming(Capt) & W.Kerr, J.Thomson & W.Anderson, M.Currie & R.Cumming.
Scorers– Unknown.
James Richardson for the Falkirk side was the brother of George [the Falkirk FC Secretary], and later played for Falkirk FC, in later life he was manager of the Gothic foundry and as I never tire of telling people, was remarkably Falkirk's only player who was born in Peru!
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Sorry
I am sorry, I have not posted in quite a while, I am sad to say I took my eye off the ball, I am glad to say that I took my eye off the ball because the GF gave me the book of all the English League players from 1888/89 to 1938/39, and I have been busy cross-referencing it with the other info that I have.
Mostly it has been about adding dates of birth/death that I did not know, but it has also revealed the identities of several trialists, who although only playing in one friendly, or minor cup match, still played for Falkirk FC [which is one more match than I will ever get]. It is a big book and it will take me some time [since after I go through the book looking for players who played for Falkirk, I will then go through it looking for the names of known Falkirk players].
But bear with me, I will be back writing about the more pointless [yet interesting to me] points of fact in the history of football in Falkirk District.
Then I will do it all again looking for 'shire players [I love it really].
Mostly it has been about adding dates of birth/death that I did not know, but it has also revealed the identities of several trialists, who although only playing in one friendly, or minor cup match, still played for Falkirk FC [which is one more match than I will ever get]. It is a big book and it will take me some time [since after I go through the book looking for players who played for Falkirk, I will then go through it looking for the names of known Falkirk players].
But bear with me, I will be back writing about the more pointless [yet interesting to me] points of fact in the history of football in Falkirk District.
Then I will do it all again looking for 'shire players [I love it really].
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Football Player History
The bizzare thing about the History of Football is that often it is better to read history backwards than forwards, for example after a club, such as Falkirk, sign a Junior player, you can only find out certain things about that player by going back and checking the reports of his junior games than going forward and checking his later career.
For example: often that player played with a brother at the junior level, the other player not making it to senior, which gives you a clue to finding him in the census, so you need to look up stuff of his exploits in the Falkirk & District Junior League.
Another problem is, of course: Births, Deaths and Marriages, I often find players in this section from when they became benedicks before they became Falkirk FC players, deaths is not so usefull for later players, but if they were from well enough to do families the births can help. Of course, the previous junior club can help in where to look, a player with Falkirk Excelsior [d'oh], but with players from outwith Falkirk District, and there are loads, well the Junior Club tells us where to look.
Sometimes it takes us a long time to research stuff. But I tell it here.
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Falkirk FC Graves - William Ferguson
Oh Dear, my atrocious filing system does me again. The other day whilst looking through the many pictures I have taken in Camelon Cemetery to try and cut down the sheer number of files on my computer I came across one I had no memory of - that of William Ferguson.
You see, when looking for the gravestones of former Falkirk players, I also take pictures of the headstones of people with the same name whose timescale is roughly similar to that of the Falkirk player, with the intention of having a closer look when I get home, the problem being that many of the pictures get lost in the mass of timestamped jpegs in the folder.
Well, I clearly overlooked the headstone of William Ferguson, so now I have forgotten in which part of the cemetery it lies, oh well ....
The big brother of Falkirk's first proper goalscorer Sandy Ferguson, Willie started out as a winger, but he never really shone in that position, and quickly settled down into his regular position of Right-Half. To be there is little to go on, as even though his career lasted over four seasons at the club, there is such scant information on most of the games in the early seasons that his 18 known matches only tell half the story. Most of the games back then have no information whatsoever about who played in most of the matches at all.
Right-Half was an unglamorous position even back then so very little was said of them unless they scored or had a particularly great game, it would seem William did neither, he played regularly until 1883, then a cameo appearance a couple of seasons later. I cannot say exactly why he dropped from the team for a while, but according to the 1881 census he was an Iron Moulder [another one: in Falkirk!] therefore it is entirely possible that he obtained a place in a foundry somewhere else, perhaps even down south as many others did at the time [for example the only reason that Jock Simpson was born in Pendleton, Lancashire, was that his Father who had lived in Campfield Street was working there].
I can not tell exactly what was going on, I have learned however that workers did move about much more than I previously believed, but until someone finds a William Ferguson playing for a local team in another area known for Iron Founding it will be almost impossible to prove either way, but, you know, I will keep looking.
William Ferguson
b 23rd December 1855, Falkirk, Stirlingshire
d 8th November 1911
Debut – Saturday September 6th 1879 v Kirkintilloch Athletic (A) Friendly
Competitive Debut – Saturday September 27th 1879 v Grasshoppers (H) Scottish Cup 1st Rd
Scottish Cup Matches/Goals [4/-]
Other Matches/Goals [14/-]
Known Career – Falkirk [1879/80-1882/83, 1885/86]
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Bury v Falkirk - 19th Dec 1896
Not one of the most illustrious notes in the history of Falkirk Football Club, but still a match worthy of noting was Falkirk's 0-9 crushing at the hands of Bury at Gigg Lane in December 1896, notable because it was Falkirk FC's first match outside of Scotland. Of course the club were out of their depth, Bury were a serious force in the English League, whilst Falkirk were a middling team in the Scottish Combination [a league made partly of provincial sides and partly of City Clubs' reserve sides].
The result looks a bit embarrassing at first glance, but the gulf in the teams probably was about that size. Plus there were other things to take into account, for example there were significant differences between the laws in Scotland & England and this game would have been under laws that Falkirk had never played under before. And it must be said this was a bit of a makeshift Falkirk side [for example David Robertson [the Albion Rovers RB playing because his brother was at Bury and he was visiting]].
There is little doubt that John Pray had something to do with this match taking place, as the then Bury centre-half was a Falkirk lad and had risen to prominence in the centre of the Falkirk Half-Back line before going down south by the even back then circuitous route by way of Govan: there is nothing new in Scottish Football.
However, the thing I like most about this is the way the team never went straight to Bury on the train, and instead stopped by way of Pendleton [birthplace of John Simpson] to visit the Scotia Foundry, where there were many a Falkirk Bairn [and quite a few Bainsford folk too], this link between Falkirk/Bainsford & Pendleton has largely been overlooked now that the steel & iron is dead in both communities, but back then was so pronounced that it was not unknown for the Falkirk Herald to carry reports of inter-foundry matches from Pendleton depending upon the amount of locals involved.
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